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1i will present to you incomplete transcripts of an argument, please determine who is being the most intellectually dishonest.2--------3Kold4 @koldinium.com5· 18h6enrico weigelt who is the guy here, was shouted at in the lkml by linus in 2021 for spouting vaccine conspiracy theories.78this your boy?9www.theregister.com/2021/06/11/l...10Linus Torvalds tells kernel list poster to 'SHUT THE HELL UP' for saying COVID-19 vaccines create 'new humanoid race'11'Any Linux discussion list isn't going to have your idiotic drivel pass uncontested from me'12www.theregister.com13Felipe Contreras14What part of "COVID-19 shots are genetic engineering" is a "conspiracy theory"?15Kold16 @koldinium.com17· 3h18did you read the fucking article he literally says it "creates a new humanoid race" that's fucking coo coo, that's straight schizo writing on the wall shit.19Felipe Contreras20 @zenpec.bsky.social21· 2h22You know there are studies in which participants present spike protein after 700 days, right?2324Post-vaccination syndrome is now a recognized disease.2526These are facts.27test28 @gay.jeanmachine.dev29· 1h30im gonna sneak into ur bedroom and vaccinate u in ur sleep :331Felipe Contreras32 @zenpec.bsky.social33· 1h34So you don't believe in "my body my choice"?35🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵36@fenny.moe37sure, make a choice to make your body a carrier of a deadly virus3839other people should be able to make choices to protect themselves against your bioterrorism 4041making a choice to infect other people with covid should be able to be charged with assault, battery, and manslaughter or murder42June 7, 2025 at 12:09 AM436 likes44🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵45 @fenny.moe46· 1h47if you're an antivaxxer, shooting you dead is self-defense because you made the choice to make your body into a bioterrorist weapon4849that's how personal choice and bodily autonomy works, sorry50🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵51 @fenny.moe52· 1h53if you think my body my choice means being able to choose to make your body into a bioterrorist weapon, then my body my choice also means taking any means necessary to protect yourself and your loved ones from those who have turned themselves into bioterrorist weapons54Felipe Contreras55 @zenpec.bsky.social56· 1h57Good thing you are the "tolerant" one.5859Also, in case you didn't know "vaccinated" people also transmit the disease.60🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵61 @fenny.moe62· 1h63putting "vaccinated" in scare quotes doesn't make vaccines not the single most effective way of preventing infection and transmission of disease6465vaccines also kill the disease faster so it doesn't spread6667but seriously. make your choice to spread disease. i will take it as the threat to life it is68🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵69 @fenny.moe70· 1h71i don't care about being "tolerant" you think i'm supposed to be as someone who doesn't hold whatever stupid ideals you do7273"so much for the tolerant left" is the calling card of the most mediocre individuals on the planet74Felipe Contreras75 @zenpec.bsky.social76· 1h77You know that COVID-19 mRNA shots don't contain any causative agent, right?78🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵79 @fenny.moe80· 1h81cite your sources82🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵83 @fenny.moe84· 1h85also explain what you mean by "causative agent" because it probably means some pseudoscience meaning you've just decided is the correct one86oliver87 @eikopf.dev88· 1h89“causative agent” is usually just the weakened virus itself in traditional vaccines, they’re just trying to pretend that mRNA can’t be the active element of a vaccine because it isn’t the virus itself90oliver91 @eikopf.dev92· 1h93this is a toddler’s understanding of medicine94🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵95 @fenny.moe96· 1h97lmao yeah i figured they were trying to just use some incorrect "plain meaning" they got from whale dot to i just want them to actually show their whole ass instead of arguing that their uncited hallucinations should be taken as fact9899at least LLMs cite their sources!100oliver101 @eikopf.dev102· 1h103it’s particularly stupid because *the entire point* of mRNA is to act as a proxy for the causative agent and avoid needing to produce pathogens for vaccine production104Felipe Contreras105 @zenpec.bsky.social106· 1h107You just spelled it out.108109mRNA technology avoids the production of vaccines.110oliver111 @eikopf.dev112· 59m113buddy if you’re stuck on the idea that vaccines need pathogens by definition then you’re just fighting thin air114More115🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵116 @fenny.moe117· 59m118no, that is not what they said119120you are intentionally removing words to try to "gotcha" here, which is a really really stupid rhetorical technique121122it avoids having to use pathogens in the manufacturing process of vaccines123124the vaccines are still manufactured. in a safer and more effective way125More126Felipe Contreras127 @zenpec.bsky.social128· 1h129I'm not pretending anything.130131Do COVID-19 mRNA shots have the causative agent?132133It's a simple yes-or-no question.134oliver135 @eikopf.dev136· 1h137no, they don’t. they are designed to mimic the causative agent, that’s literally the entire point138oliver139 @eikopf.dev140· 1h141that’s why they’re dramatically safer and easier to produce than traditional vaccines142Kold143 @koldinium.com144· 57m145hmmm focusing on if it *counts* as a vaccine cuz it doesn't have a causitive agent rather than focusing on the effectiveness of it, seems rather **prescriptive** rather than **pragmatic** to me wouldn't you say?146More147Felipe Contreras148 @zenpec.bsky.social149· 59m150Exactly. So they are *nothing* like the vaccines that have been tested for decades.151152They are a completely new technology that doesn't do what vaccines have done.153oliver154 @eikopf.dev155· 58m156they’re brand new, which is why it’s so cool that they were so fucking effective157More158🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵159 @fenny.moe160· 1h161does it need it to be able to make the body produce antibodies?162163even if it doesn't contain live or dead virus cells, it can still be effective164165you have to prove the vaccine isn't effective, not prove that it doesn't have virus cells166Felipe Contreras167 @zenpec.bsky.social168· 1h169LOL. I'll take that as "I didn't know".170171That explains a lot.172🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵173 @fenny.moe174· 1h175no. it is "you don't know shit, i want to know where you're getting this from so i can see why you have brainwashed yourself"176177you are the one making extreme, yet vague, claims about vaccines here178🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵179 @fenny.moe180· 1h181if you aren't capable of citing any sources or evidence, your words have as little credibility as a work of fiction182🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵183 @fenny.moe184· 1h185and pretending you're smart by using terms of art like "causative agent" in a way that likely has a specific special meaning that you take from whatever source186187define causative agent, cite your sources, and we can determine whether it's valid ourselves. don't, and we can only take it as invalid188Felipe Contreras189 @zenpec.bsky.social190· 1h191In the context of COVID-19, the causative agent is the agent that causes the disease, in this case the SARS-CoV-2 virus.192193How is that difficult to understand?194🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵195 @fenny.moe196· 1h197okay198199so cite sources explaining how the lack of that causative agent, the full virus, prevents the formation of antibodies from the mRNA data still contained in the vaccine200201if you have done research then i would like to see your evidence. i'm not going to believe you over an LLM that can cite shit202More203Felipe Contreras204 @zenpec.bsky.social205· 1h206If you need sources that explain the most quintessential feature of mRNA technology, that means you have *no idea* what mRNA even is.207🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵208 @fenny.moe209· 1h210i know what mRNA is211212cite your fucking sources because right now your claims are fiction until you do213214in actual science, sources are cited even if it seems obvious215216if it seems obvious to you, that is because you got it from some source217218without cited sources, you have zero rigor or evidence219Kold220 @koldinium.com221· 1h222you'd think if it was so quintessential, it'd be easy to cite a source.223Jam Pants 🏺224 @jampants.net225· 1h226MerriamDickster.org227🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵228 @fenny.moe229· 1h230exactly! there is no reason to resist citing sources unless you think your sources are weak!231More232Felipe Contreras233 @zenpec.bsky.social234· 1h235It is easy.236Morelogin to post a comment