i will present to you incomplete transcripts of an argument, please determine who is being the most intellectually dishonest. -------- ‪Kold‬ ‪@koldinium.com‬ · 18h enrico weigelt who is the guy here, was shouted at in the lkml by linus in 2021 for spouting vaccine conspiracy theories. this your boy? www.theregister.com/2021/06/11/l... Linus Torvalds tells kernel list poster to 'SHUT THE HELL UP' for saying COVID-19 vaccines create 'new humanoid race' 'Any Linux discussion list isn't going to have your idiotic drivel pass uncontested from me' www.theregister.com Felipe Contreras What part of "COVID-19 shots are genetic engineering" is a "conspiracy theory"? ‪Kold‬ ‪@koldinium.com‬ · 3h did you read the fucking article he literally says it "creates a new humanoid race" that's fucking coo coo, that's straight schizo writing on the wall shit. ‪Felipe Contreras‬ ‪@zenpec.bsky.social‬ · 2h You know there are studies in which participants present spike protein after 700 days, right? Post-vaccination syndrome is now a recognized disease. These are facts. ‪test‬ ‪@gay.jeanmachine.dev‬ · 1h im gonna sneak into ur bedroom and vaccinate u in ur sleep :3 ‪Felipe Contreras‬ ‪@zenpec.bsky.social‬ · 1h So you don't believe in "my body my choice"? 🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵 ‪@fenny.moe‬ sure, make a choice to make your body a carrier of a deadly virus other people should be able to make choices to protect themselves against your bioterrorism making a choice to infect other people with covid should be able to be charged with assault, battery, and manslaughter or murder June 7, 2025 at 12:09 AM 6 likes ‪🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵‬ ‪@fenny.moe‬ · 1h if you're an antivaxxer, shooting you dead is self-defense because you made the choice to make your body into a bioterrorist weapon that's how personal choice and bodily autonomy works, sorry ‪🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵‬ ‪@fenny.moe‬ · 1h if you think my body my choice means being able to choose to make your body into a bioterrorist weapon, then my body my choice also means taking any means necessary to protect yourself and your loved ones from those who have turned themselves into bioterrorist weapons ‪Felipe Contreras‬ ‪@zenpec.bsky.social‬ · 1h Good thing you are the "tolerant" one. Also, in case you didn't know "vaccinated" people also transmit the disease. ‪🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵‬ ‪@fenny.moe‬ · 1h putting "vaccinated" in scare quotes doesn't make vaccines not the single most effective way of preventing infection and transmission of disease vaccines also kill the disease faster so it doesn't spread but seriously. make your choice to spread disease. i will take it as the threat to life it is ‪🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵‬ ‪@fenny.moe‬ · 1h i don't care about being "tolerant" you think i'm supposed to be as someone who doesn't hold whatever stupid ideals you do "so much for the tolerant left" is the calling card of the most mediocre individuals on the planet ‪Felipe Contreras‬ ‪@zenpec.bsky.social‬ · 1h You know that COVID-19 mRNA shots don't contain any causative agent, right? ‪🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵‬ ‪@fenny.moe‬ · 1h cite your sources ‪🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵‬ ‪@fenny.moe‬ · 1h also explain what you mean by "causative agent" because it probably means some pseudoscience meaning you've just decided is the correct one ‪oliver‬ ‪@eikopf.dev‬ · 1h “causative agent” is usually just the weakened virus itself in traditional vaccines, they’re just trying to pretend that mRNA can’t be the active element of a vaccine because it isn’t the virus itself ‪oliver‬ ‪@eikopf.dev‬ · 1h this is a toddler’s understanding of medicine ‪🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵‬ ‪@fenny.moe‬ · 1h lmao yeah i figured they were trying to just use some incorrect "plain meaning" they got from whale dot to i just want them to actually show their whole ass instead of arguing that their uncited hallucinations should be taken as fact at least LLMs cite their sources! ‪oliver‬ ‪@eikopf.dev‬ · 1h it’s particularly stupid because *the entire point* of mRNA is to act as a proxy for the causative agent and avoid needing to produce pathogens for vaccine production ‪Felipe Contreras‬ ‪@zenpec.bsky.social‬ · 1h You just spelled it out. mRNA technology avoids the production of vaccines. ‪oliver‬ ‪@eikopf.dev‬ · 59m buddy if you’re stuck on the idea that vaccines need pathogens by definition then you’re just fighting thin air More ‪🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵‬ ‪@fenny.moe‬ · 59m no, that is not what they said you are intentionally removing words to try to "gotcha" here, which is a really really stupid rhetorical technique it avoids having to use pathogens in the manufacturing process of vaccines the vaccines are still manufactured. in a safer and more effective way More ‪Felipe Contreras‬ ‪@zenpec.bsky.social‬ · 1h I'm not pretending anything. Do COVID-19 mRNA shots have the causative agent? It's a simple yes-or-no question. ‪oliver‬ ‪@eikopf.dev‬ · 1h no, they don’t. they are designed to mimic the causative agent, that’s literally the entire point ‪oliver‬ ‪@eikopf.dev‬ · 1h that’s why they’re dramatically safer and easier to produce than traditional vaccines ‪Kold‬ ‪@koldinium.com‬ · 57m hmmm focusing on if it *counts* as a vaccine cuz it doesn't have a causitive agent rather than focusing on the effectiveness of it, seems rather **prescriptive** rather than **pragmatic** to me wouldn't you say? More ‪Felipe Contreras‬ ‪@zenpec.bsky.social‬ · 59m Exactly. So they are *nothing* like the vaccines that have been tested for decades. They are a completely new technology that doesn't do what vaccines have done. ‪oliver‬ ‪@eikopf.dev‬ · 58m they’re brand new, which is why it’s so cool that they were so fucking effective More ‪🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵‬ ‪@fenny.moe‬ · 1h does it need it to be able to make the body produce antibodies? even if it doesn't contain live or dead virus cells, it can still be effective you have to prove the vaccine isn't effective, not prove that it doesn't have virus cells ‪Felipe Contreras‬ ‪@zenpec.bsky.social‬ · 1h LOL. I'll take that as "I didn't know". That explains a lot. ‪🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵‬ ‪@fenny.moe‬ · 1h no. it is "you don't know shit, i want to know where you're getting this from so i can see why you have brainwashed yourself" you are the one making extreme, yet vague, claims about vaccines here ‪🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵‬ ‪@fenny.moe‬ · 1h if you aren't capable of citing any sources or evidence, your words have as little credibility as a work of fiction ‪🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵‬ ‪@fenny.moe‬ · 1h and pretending you're smart by using terms of art like "causative agent" in a way that likely has a specific special meaning that you take from whatever source define causative agent, cite your sources, and we can determine whether it's valid ourselves. don't, and we can only take it as invalid ‪Felipe Contreras‬ ‪@zenpec.bsky.social‬ · 1h In the context of COVID-19, the causative agent is the agent that causes the disease, in this case the SARS-CoV-2 virus. How is that difficult to understand? ‪🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵‬ ‪@fenny.moe‬ · 1h okay so cite sources explaining how the lack of that causative agent, the full virus, prevents the formation of antibodies from the mRNA data still contained in the vaccine if you have done research then i would like to see your evidence. i'm not going to believe you over an LLM that can cite shit More ‪Felipe Contreras‬ ‪@zenpec.bsky.social‬ · 1h If you need sources that explain the most quintessential feature of mRNA technology, that means you have *no idea* what mRNA even is. ‪🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵‬ ‪@fenny.moe‬ · 1h i know what mRNA is cite your fucking sources because right now your claims are fiction until you do in actual science, sources are cited even if it seems obvious if it seems obvious to you, that is because you got it from some source without cited sources, you have zero rigor or evidence ‪Kold‬ ‪@koldinium.com‬ · 1h you'd think if it was so quintessential, it'd be easy to cite a source. ‪Jam Pants 🏺‬ ‪@jampants.net‬ · 1h MerriamDickster.org ‪🍁🔥🔱 ~ wings of a feather ~ 🩵‬ ‪@fenny.moe‬ · 1h exactly! there is no reason to resist citing sources unless you think your sources are weak! More ‪Felipe Contreras‬ ‪@zenpec.bsky.social‬ · 1h It is easy. More